Hi Dominikas, I'm sure if there is a thread like that someone will recall it and share it. For me I understand these as layers. Or in another way they are like a puzzle. Have you ever seen a "Cryptex?" One features in the movie "The Davinci Code," interestingly Tom Hanks stared in this and Tom Hanks and his chart were a feature in our panel discussion about the moon through the houses which we recorded yesterday and is in the EA channel on YouTube now if people haven't seen it yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxGxBmyYghw Coming back to this cryptex analogy. Within the puzzle are a number of discs or circular drums that must align in order for the "catch" to be released and the puzzle opened. I see the "House/Sign/Aspect" like this. It is only when puzzling the puzzle, looking at how each layer relates to the previous ones applied that we can see what pattern it creates, how it reveals itself as a journey when we can observe it from the outside. And these "whole" pictures will still look different from person to person when we examine them in relation to what we observe when enquiring about our clients lives and perspectives when examining their, or our own charts Just a thought, hope it helps :) Blessings and much love Joe

Healing prayers and thoughts Rad. And a lot of love too God bless Joe

Hi Lou, reading your words reminds me of my experiences at times too. I'll be delighted to connect and hear about your experiences and share mine, if you would like. And anyone else feeling the same too. As we all know, and feel, this work is just beautiful and transforming. But there can be challenges. I've had some help in my journey, and it has made all the difference. So, in any ways that I can I'd like to offer my help and support too. Blessings and much love Joe

Absolutely, thank you for mentioning that Rad. I do indeed see the opportunity, more than to "learn" and deepend my relationship with Evolutionary Astrology, for me it's about helping to deepen my understanding and relationship with my own soul's journey. God bless

Astro Gold puts Pluto in Taurus

Thank and bless you Rad

Ah, I love both places. I've been teaching Shamanism and Shamanic Healing in Greece, mostly Athens, for many years. The land as much as the buildings upon it holds these archetypical energies and makes them and the archetypes available to us. I feel it helps in unlocking ways to connect more deeply with the archetypical energies of the planets making it a lived experience and so we are not just dependent on our absorbing information to build a relationship of understanding that we can apply through astrology

Vesta just has that special something however each of us experiences her doesn't she. I feel that when we call in our relationship with her as with all goddesses and gods, all archetypes, they all speak and offer up what they have to share that we need . Just by thinking about them even .

The theme of surrendering, giving up control, even of seemingly meaningless things rings home

Thanks Kristin, reminds me of the chorus of a song : https://youtu.be/iMmMqfQZkxA?si=gfjQeJ_5jWS2_Fve&t=8

I understand them to be the "Keepers of the Sacred Flame" of Sacred Sexuality, just as Vesta is. Initators of young men who were coming of age. They have of course been transformed in the public eye by the Patriachy over thousands of years into something less than Saced Prostitues, just as our relatioonship with sexual experience has been transformed (informed ) in the same way. Everything has its place in time and its no wonder interest in the archetype of Vesta and those who "held" her energies, is gaining popularity and interest again as we step into different times. I stood within the runis of the Temple of Vesta in the Form, in Rome some years ago. It held a deepening kind of energy as I experienced it, and a peacefullness that was seperate from the crowds of people only 20 meters away. Or maybe I just projected all of that onto it while I was there? Who knows? But I wonder.

Hi Louise, what came to my mind to write is "Your Soul knows what the priority is, even if you don't" (From Rose ~ Guiding Stars for December.) For me I see the natal phasal relationships as the Soul's "agenda" that it is desiring to approach or resolve in this current lifetime. As we know, some issues take a series of lifetimes to resolve, this can be seen as both an obstacle, the delay, or an opportiunity ~ going deep into the issue or theme over a series of lifetimes. I would imagine that the progressed chart will give you a picture of how the Soul through "action" dynamic Mars is developing the theme represented in the phasal relationship over the current lifetime. Maybe someone can add to this and confirm or correct please. Thank you 🙏

Hi Rad, thank you for your reply and also for clarifying what I can post and not. She is indeed a grand old lady, a twin actually. I haven't seen this in a chart so far, although the number of charts I have seen and worked with is still small but growing. Thankyou for your kind words Much love Joe