Sedna

Hi Jen,

Thank you too, you bring many interesting things on Sedna, I didn't knew about her ingress, what a change in the sea! The same day unfortunately we had the sinking of the refugee boat in Greece that is a big catastrophe and certainly calling the world to see the migration crisis we have and get to the root of why that happens and the interconnectedness nature of everything.

I remember diving a bit on Sedna in the old message board some years ago and there is some information there to check if you want to see it. I searched and last year there was a conjunction of Lilith Sedna and transiting north node and this is Rose Marcus's answer to this post and also pointing to the fact that Sedna at 0 gemini makes an absolute trine to to pluto as pluto goes again into aquarius and then to conjunction to uranus:

"Greetings all,

Helena: The conjunction is also very close to Sedna at 28 taurus. I would say we are challenged to recover a dormant life force that cannot forever sleep or lay at the bottom of the ocean, and certainly rebel for freedom, that's for sure.

Your words provide such a succinct description for Sedna! Sedna serves to unlock or un-thaw that has been held in a frozen state for far too long. Her prominence now suggests it is time for us to resurface with an absolute, unwavering commitment to fight for what is most authentic and intrinsic to life – the right to exist and to thrive according to one's true nature, as a species, as a consciousness, as a soul, as a part of the whole. It is interesting to note that Sedna will continue to stay in trine aspect to Pluto for most of this decade, advancing from Taurus to Gemini (April 2024) as Pluto ends Capricorn and begins its 20-year tour of Aquarius. Moving from Taurus to Gemini, Uranus continues in balsamic relationship to Sedna until late May of 2026, then moves to a new phase relationship for several more years. I hold hope that lengthy alignment of Sedna in Gemini, in trine to Pluto in Aquarius, and conjunct Uranus in Gemini, is a signature for a positive shift regarding our collective learning curve and the way we perceive, create, relate, and connect. Blessings to all, Rose"

P.S. Very cool too is what you mention about Sedna's nodes and how they mirror Neptune's nodes in reverse - returning to a sense of community and natural law

Relative to your technical orb questions maybe Rad or others can best comment.

When it comes to the use in the chart I see them as pointing to a parallel with the myth, that unlike planets, tell a specific story with their own specific archetypes that add an additional, and sometimes quite specific, layer of meaning. I wouldn't find very difficult for example to see in a prominent Sedna, if it is confirmed with other placements, a love for the ocean, a cruel father, abandonment, survival from water disaster or drowning, etc.

I just went to check for example the chart of surfer Kelly Slater, one of the best of all times, and he has natal Sedna at 1 taurus conjunct natal mars at 0 taurus, natal sun and mercury conjunct Sedna's north node in Aquarius and he also has a north node in aquarius. He is already and advocate and spokesperson for the protection of the oceans and it's likely we will come back again in future lives for the cause.

Hi Rose, Helena, and Jen

To me the orb should be very small considering it's motion and distance from Earth. I would suggest an orb of no more that two degrees.

Helena: human hair is co-ruled between Pluto, Scorpio, and the 8th house with Saturn, Capricorn, and the 10th house because even though hair comes in many colors and textures, it is all made of the same materials. The main ingredient of human hair is a protein called keratin, which is also found in human skin, teeth, fingernails and toenails. Hair also includes oils for texture and a chemical called melanin.

Proteins in general correlate with Pluto,etc, and melanin correlates with Saturn, etc.

God Bless, Rad

Hi Rad,

Thank you! For some reason i saw your reply to Jen but missed the part on the hair correlations. That makes it even more interesting not only to the myth but how much hair is so much connected to the idea of social standing, race, gender - Saturn, and in the myth, the father cutting the fingers where the hair serves then as healing response and defense. It's incredible! I had the idea it was only Pluto, so thank you for that.

May Goddess Bless,

Helena

Hi Jordyn, I love that you've been following and learning about yourself. It's funny, because I like to read lots of different interpretations, and always take them with a grain of salt, but when I first read "not of this world" ( I think in the Noel Tyl forum), I laughed. My natal Sedna is conjunct my South Node by less than one degree, in my 7th house. There you go, it's a joke from the universe, not of this world. Most likely why it jumped out at you as well, with your 12th house and Neptune connections. Very oceanic!

I really like the image you've created here of the pressure and depth and inertia at the bottom of the sea forcing development.

I have a cousin born in 1989, (our fathers were brothers, he and I each have a Sun-Pluto conjunction, though my Pluto is in Libra.) Thinking about him and father issues made me want to mention something else. Parental abandonment in myth and folktale is often so graphic or disturbing, and it can be taken quite literally, but just as often it is only symbolic of the necessary psychological separation from the parents one must take before beginning ones own journey of individuation and sprititual growth, as you've described.

Jen,

I love that, ""it's a joke from the Universe", indeed.

I think what I find so often with the myths about fathers is usually, and I can only speak from my perception of my own experience and what I have seen with few other people with "father wounds" is that it all goes back to patriarchal distortions. When I think of myths with fathers and abandonment usuallly I can take it with a grain of salt like you stated. Sometimes, the "father" is the patriarchy or any type of pseudo patriarchal form of "authority", as in my case and much to what I have seen with clients. Definitely not across the board though. My father didn't abandon me in the way that myths describe, and to many people it would apear he was great if you are part of the consensus, and he was in a lot of ways, but as you stated it is the journey of individuation that you picked up on!

I am just glad that we are having a discourse about Sedna. I had reached out to Helena before she posted a reply to you and I asked about literature or any type of material to study the goddesses further and she mentioned Women Who Run With Wolves and Skeleton Woman. I love the story about Skeleton Woman and how it is about the spiritual relationship with other and the death/life/death cycles we have within our relationships. When naturally expressed we know that relationships have many deaths contained within them breathing new life through the cycle of rebirth and regeneration, thus evolution. I think that Sedna and Skeleton Woman beautifully portray this cycle in the most poetic sense. Skeleton Woman being forced to the surface in a net. A birth from the sea! A rebirth in evolution. And in some ways I think that story speaks to the birth of each incarnation and the cycles within each lifetime. I am interested on your take on that story when you get the chance and are up for it. I really enjoy other's point of view because I learn a lot from them. In all honesty in this lifetime I definitely self imposed myself to a little hole and by that I mean very patriarchal area. So often I feel like I'm teaching others because my point of view is different in a place where most have the same, so I get a lot out of the message board because I can get the chance to learn from others too in common a interest.💚

Goddess Blessings,

Jordyn

Hi Jen and Jordyn,

This is a very interesting topic indded now that sedna is in gemini.

Jen, that's so cool, i've been meaning to reply but i just wanted to read again through the skelleton myth because i also haven't taken it from the shelf in quite a while :-)

I didn't remember but i also share the conjunction to chiron, imagine. I guess we are from the same generation of south node, chrion, sedna conjunction , only my is out of sign. So the connections you bring are really interesting.

I'll have to go and look at everything more deeply for sure.

Thank you!

Helena