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Reflections on Amadeus through the Lens of Virgo and Leo

I watched Amadeus last night and was struck by how vividly it illustrated the archetypes of Pluto in Leo and Pluto in Virgo.

I keep thinking about the natural zodiac and using it to find out why each sign is the way it is.

Mozart seemed to embody Leo — unapologetically creating from the heart, expressing life without restraint or question. Salieri, on the other hand, reflected Virgo — having that past Leo ego or love of something and even some talent but becomes bitter when he’s outshined or can’t create the life  he wants, and a sense of being punished by God (negative of the Pisces polarity)


What really resonated for me was how crisis functions within the Virgo archetype. In moments of crisis, we’re often shown who we are and who we are not. Salieri’s tragedy, to me, was that he could not accept this truth. He could…


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devagreen
Oct 13, 2025

Hi Dominika,


Yes, these reflections are correct. From my point of view, 8th house/Scorpio/Pluto archetype also correlates to enemies and jealousy/envy. Virgo correlates to inferiority/superiority dynamic and how inner criticism or inner lack can be projected outwards, i.e we can become our own worst enemy/critic.


Namaste,


Deva

Depression Saturn capricorn

I just recently heard someone say that depression is actually a compression.. to go inside


I just loved this because Saturn is very restrictive and “compressing” but its purpose is to self reflect as JWG said.

So to go inside.. polarity to cancer 4H moon


Would you say this is accurate?


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Pluto and its polarity

I’ve been getting stuck on the very first step of the paradigm.

In the beginning of the Pluto book it feels like JWG is saying that wherever Pluto is in the chart is what our evolutionary intent was (what we were evolving towards) so example Pluto in the 9th was working toward right brain thinking, truth, their place in the world, forming beliefs. . Due to this they have developed a deep inner security towards their beliefs and their truths but these beliefs are limited.

It seems to say that in order to expand these beliefs and see their limitations, we must look to the polarity, in this case 3rd house.


But in the end of the the book just after Pluto in Neptune, it felt like JWG said that we come into this life with the security of where Pluto is but in this life our evolutionary intent is…


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Archetype of Worry

Hello friends!

I have been thinking about which archetype in the zodiac is linked with "Worry". Virgo seems to be the one that comes to mind, but lately I have also been thinking about Gemini, Capricorn and Scorpio as well. Can you guys share your thoughts and which archetype you to link to worry? Would you say there is one dominant archetype for it, or can you see this manifested in different archetypes.

Thank you for your thoughts!

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